If youre going to buy a Ruger American, know there are dozens of different configurations available. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Gun #: 932303293. It shoots as well as some of my full blown custom rifles I have thousands invested in. Thoughts? Then you can go pick up in your local store in just a couple days and do the government paperwork and walk away with it. Hey Jim, I like the reviews on the CVA but the Bergara is hard to beat, the Terrain Wilderness is the one Im leaning towards. The Howa is around $200-$300 cheaper than the Savage. Bergara seems to have just come out with a Walnut stock maybe as a result of one of you comparing their stocks to garage floors??? It is aggravating that the stock hugs the barrel on one side, but it doesnt contact on mine. $699.00. Jim- Have you tested/reviewed any of the Sauer 100 rifles? You are using an out of date browser. Its an expensive gun but Ive been hearing good things. However, they really dont get enough attention from huntersmostly because they make few attempts to really stand out from the other rifles on the shelf. With a typical retail price of $549, the Franchi Momentum is a lot of Italian hunting rifle for not a lot of cash. Having said that, in this price range, a lot of the decision is matching the rifle to your unique circumstances and preferences. Franchi Momentum .308 Win Threaded 22" Bbl Htr Gry BA Rifle 41533. Question about the vanguard vs the bergara. I might just know about a new rifle coming in January 2023 that might change your mind, Awesome reviews Jim. Saving a penny by not buying grease and oil costs you hundreds of dollars in rust repair. My two next rifles will be a Weatherby Mark V and a Sako 85. Ive shot heavier .308s with more felt recoil than this guy. Hard to go wrong with it for online prices often below $400. No, naturally I forgot to measure and I didnt keep the targets (estimating with the On Target app based on the dimensions of the ammo box, its about 0.45 MOA). I recommend getting this Ruger American Predator in 6.5 Creedmoor if youll be hunting deer-sized game (or smaller than deer), want to have tons of inexpensive ammo options, and if youll also be using it for target shooting. Id like to know how the Sandman suppressor performed. Powered by UBB.threads PHP Forum Software 7.7.5. More velocity with the heavier bullets which by the way do not work so well in the 6.5 Creedmore. I think in theory controlled feed is better, but they also generally dont feed well (or at all) if you try to feed by dropping one in, rather than mag feeding. Nor did it entirely love the excellent Hornady Black ammo, putting two rounds through the O that I was aiming at and three in another very tight group some distance away. Is the Sako worth the that premium price though? The scope hasnt moved for years now and I have shot it quite a bit. In this day and age, there is really no reason to not have a removable magazine that you could top load also. And the thought of upgrades on a new rifle seems stupid to me. Have you heard any news about springfield adding additional calibers for it? Hello Jim. So, here are my quick thoughts on some of the competition for the best premium factory rifle under $2,500. The Carbon Predator looks cool, but really just a slight variation on the 110 ultralite. (I\m in Denver and could use a road trip). I took it back to Scheels and the guys said its the second time someone has brought one back with that issue in a week. Any of you guys have any experience with the Burris signature scopes? Same for Austria and Glock. Ok I concede your right to a degree but there are tons and tons of older made deer rifles on the market. Most people hide their plasticky pieces of shit from their friends if their friends are the old foxes who know what a real gun is. I\m relatively new to the channel & website, and it has quickly become a favorite of mine. Thats a nice collection. I have shot the Impulse and wasnt impressed. Even though Im happy with my decision, the Ultralite might have been the better way to go. There are quality inexpensive rifles being made, but if you step up into the $500-$1,000 price range, almost every option will shoot accurately and have more consistent quality control. See also Gluck. Im looking for an elk rifle. Great review I havent heard you talk much about the Seekins rifles, any thoughts on them? Watch my full review of the Springfield 2020 Waypoint. So in general, pick the Tikka T3X Lite if you want a lightweight rifle with a fantastic action, and youre going to be shooting cartridges lighter than a 7mm Rem Mag or .30-06. I bought a Tikka M550 in 308 while stationed in Germany back in 1984. It is their lowest entry point to their rifles but looks interesting. What do you think of the weight of the gun compared to some of these lightweight carbon stocks? I thought of the Waypoint myself but I also like the Sako Finnlight II. What matters is on the paper for 550 dollars and a threaded barrel to boot. I purchased a 280 AI in a Mark V Weatherby instead. I got it in 6.5 creedmoor for deer hunting. Of all the rifles I own, if you just said Grab a rifle and go hunting without any more specifics of where Id be hunting or what Id be hunting, Id grab that rifle. Ill keep one in mind next time Im in the market. Im looking at the Waypoint now. These are incredible results from a rifle with an MSRP barely over $600! Both good guns, I would worry about Franchi suddenly stopping production of this rifle and parts availability going to zero. Id probably go with the Bergara Wilderness Ridge. I would definitely buy the Winchester XPR SR version, which means suppressor ready, so you get a threaded barrel. NO, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_control_in_Italy, F Franchi, and Baretta and their ilk. Twist Rate: 1:11 Franchi is known for making high-quality firearms at affordable prices, and the Momentum Elite is the perfect example of this. I used to hunt as a kid. Its a Howa 1500 action in their own pretty cool stock. The Vanguard does come in quite a few cartridges, but retail stores will only give them so many spots on the shelves, and since Weatherby is always pushing its own cartridges, its common to not find the chambering youre looking for without special ordering it. These are deal breakers. Honestly, you need to review one. I own one in a 30-06, with 3 safes full of guns, it is my favourite. Im down to the Savage 110 Ultralite and the Christensen Ridgeline. I reload, so Ive been able to work on the load. And all the great work you do! Hello Jim, great article. Yes, it shipped with a knurled thread protector but I immediately lost it when I slapped my Dead Air Sandman Ti on. I dont want it to feel pain or the anxiety of dying slowly. The budget rifle video and cartridge wars are among my fav on YouTube for hunting alone. Overall Length: 42.3 inches Keep them coming! Just easier to carry in hand, never a sling. I understood going into it that it was a boutique and emotionally motivated cartridge choice, but the performance and build quality is excellent. Franchi Momentum .300 Win Mag 24" Black / Hunter Gray 4 Rds 41553. You have probably heard this before but I am not really a hunter, at least not yet. An innovative modern design with folding buttstock, pistol grip. Ill use my customized REM 700 in 300 win mag for elk. Id love to hear your thoughts on a modern option like the Extreme Weather SS MB. And contrary to most German rifles today, the barrel is threaded into the reciever (not heat shrunk). I did go looking for the reloading equipment you mentioned and more on acquiring lowers ahead of time, yet unable to find. The other option is the Springfield 2020 Waypoint. Franchi Momentum 6.5 Creedmoor 24" Flat Dark Earth Bolt-Action Rifle 41512. Spacers are included for length of pull adjustment. Slim Fit Leather Jackets brings this iconic jacket from animation to reality, especially for all the fans of this video game. Using Burris Zee rings, I just applied a thin layer of silicone sealant inside the rings and remounted the scope. I looked at the Waypoint locally and thought is was a really nice gun. Jeremy strives to collect objective data whenever possible, and looks to write accurate reviews that reflect the true user experience. Adjustable from 2 pounds to 4 pounds, my sample fell right in the middle of that range. I'm looking at it in 300 win mag. It truly needs to be able to handle rough handling. Pretty typical for a synthetic-stocked, budget-oriented hunting rifle. Hey there Jim. You made your point. I like the fact that you backed your reviews with a substantial reason for the review vs nothing to substantiate the review. I dont know even they even sell it anymore but about 10-15 years ago my first .308 was a mossberg ATR. Along with it is 2-position safety that . Im extremely satisfied with this rifle, for a hunting rifle. RECENTLY SOLD View More Data . Another group was slightly more evenly distributed but similar in size. It would be a tiny bit more expensive, but really not much. I watched each individual rifles review from you and the best option under $350, but I would like to hear your feedback from either a new video or just through here about which of the 3 rifles you think is the best in that category since you havent put them head to head in that category. Would love a Tikka, but your notes on them provide the info for not making the cut. Just remember one thing the price of the good older stuff keeps going up and up so when you waste your money on junk it never goes up in value as fast as the good stuff so when you do get around to buying something of quality you lost twice not once. I just want an all around deer rifle that is easy to find ammo for. Springfield 2020 Waypoint with a steel barrel, Click here to jump to the section on rifles under $500, Click here to jump to the section on rifles under $850, Click here to jump to the section on rifles under $1,600, Click here to jump to the section on premium rifles, a whole video showing the limitations of the Ruger American, ordering that rifle with a Vortex Crossfire II scope on it, Watch my full review of the Springfield 2020 Waypoint, Guaranteed accuracy of 3/4 MOA. Is it like the other cheap stocks you mentioned Have you reviewed one yet? I could go for a more grabby grip myself, but the Momentums checkering is certainly sufficient. Is the bergara name worth it? BTW unless youre reloading, the vast majority of factory 6.5 Creedmoor is quite a bit faster than the same projectile in 6.555. I love that Fierce Reaper but would probably have to sell another nice gun to get it and not sure I quite want to do that. Have to admit I love Henrys, so am trying to take my heart out of the decision with wisdom from someone more experienced like you. I\ve been perusing the site trying to find it as my rifle should be here today or tomorrow. With them being two different price points, Id be interested in your thoughts on spending the extra amount on the waypoint. Hes not huge. In todays market, it needs a more modern stock design, carbon barrel, and premium trigger to be worth the price they are asking. Price points on the ammo dont put them too far apart when searching on Ammoseek, usually within 5 bucks a box depending upon brand. I appreciate your knowledge and insight. Unfortunately, I cant weigh in on the Sauer 100 yet because I havent tried it. under 9 lb 7 mm or 300 w m. Jim, I know you are a fierce fan. One thing I always know I need in any rifle, hunting or range, is accuracy. Seems like the bergara barrel profile would be better for larger cartridges. Watch my review here. There are so many other options to consider, but hopefully, that gives you a solid starting place if youre looking for a premium hunting rifle. Fierce Reaper I just love it so much. I would love to see you review a Lithgow la102 from Australia. I have purchased about 12 different rifles in the sub-$500 price point over the last 3 years to test out for this review. What would you like to know? (Momentum 2018 followed by the Momentum Elite 2019). However, as Ive owned the Sig Cross for almost a year now, Im surprised by how frequently its the gun I reach for in the safe. Just my two cents, but would love to hear an honest review of these rifles. Im sure a video review by you would certainly help clarify and perhaps sway my views on the Sauer 100s. Accurate, lightweight, and comfortable with a great trigger, its a solid choice to fill your freezer this season. I found barrel engraved with 6.5 Creedmore and read manual before use And youre right about the cost of Weatherby ammo. I believe the momentum rifle could easily stack up against the models outlined in the under $500 category. I do have a question that I hope you will address. and not hold up good with the recoil? Id love to hear if the model 70 is still relevant. Jim, any thoughts on the Venture 2 from TC? it seems well priced at about 600. Floorplate, spring, and follower tilt out. Any thoughts. This gun is very accurate, has a great bump pad to absorb recoil (unlike most wood rifles) and has a threaded barrel for good measure. Have you ever made a review of the Schultz & Larsen rifle? Also, what about the Bergara MG Lite with their proprietary carbon barrel? Hey Jim, your videos are great not only on rifles, but optics too. Removing the bolt, however, is easier thanks to a release lever located on the side of the action. Its very heavy, the straight pull was difficult to work with and made a few of my shots not go off because I didnt quite push it ALL the way forward. Its incredibly well built. Id like to see how the Sauer 100 performs. Franchi, the well-known maker of fine and affordable shotguns, unveiled an updated bolt gun in its Momentum Elite. or browning. The Tikka T3X Lite comes with an absolutely fantastic action. Do you still recommend them. In regards to the CVA and the Bergara, Im looking at getting one or the other in 7mm Mag. Hello from Bozeman, MT! Commissions are earned for links to Brownell's, Amazon, MidwayUSA, GoHunt, OpticsPlanet, Sportsman's Warehouse, and other retailers. With the Sako 85 you get better wood and more metal, but I would rather buy a Tikka T3. Granted, I got the better tools for measuring how off what they sold is but theres some applications where cheap is better. After reviewing and owning over 40 bolt-action hunting rifles, here are are the best of the best. Indeed, the Momentums bolt only travels 60 degrees from fully open to fully locked and vice-versa, whereas your typical 2-lug job requires a 90-degree throw. No. Jim, I am going to use the rifle for mainly whitetail deer hunting in Wisconsin but I occasionally like once every 5-10 years go out west and hunt pronghorn or elk and have recently tried to hunt moose in Alaska. Jim, Love your channel and have spent most likely 30 plus hours reviewing your videos. Id love to give one a good in-depth review, but I havent yet. I just took the first shots with the Winchester XPR in 6.8 Western today. Fierce Rival I really like my Fierce Rival chambered in 6.5 PRC. 150 grain federal fusion groups sub 1inch or better every time. Thank you for your time and effort. Hold on to it. As an Skandinavian hunter i must say we do have some different taste in rifles, and that is great. Again a super nice old world crafted gun anyone would be proud to own and show off to friends. P.S. It was raffled, gave winner 450 hoping to thrd and add brake but barrel too thin. Both have NO bolt lock when on safety. Good Morning Jim Itd make a Backstreet Boy jealous. But I cant understand why offering left handed guns seems impossible to some manufacturers. What is your opinion on the Edge vs Rival? Fierce is about $400 more and almost a pound heavier. Unfortunately now I see it for $1700. Made in Italy? 1 Image (s) Franchi Momentum Elite 6.5 Creed Realtree Excape 24" TB Burnt Bronze 41606. I would love to hear you critique rifle makers that offer nothing left handed in their main lines. i will say that if someone ever makes an after market "classic" stock for it, i'll dump the plastic factory one. Jim, Ive owed most of the brands youve mention here. Ha! Christensen needs to improve its quality control in my opinion. November 29, 2018 By Steve Gash. Im in love. I am from Canada- and watching your channel for quite a time. Would like a rifle that print a sub MOA with factory ammo. I have watched your reviews on both, so maybe your opinion on whether itd be worth the additional money To go with the Waypoint. Would love to see your review on the Australian built Lithgow if you havent fired one yet I am sure you will be blown away by it in build quality, accuracy and value considering we are paying $900 for rifles worth $350 in America. Have you ever tested any Franchi hunting rifles? Interested in loading this cartridge. You must log in or register to reply here. I was about to buy a Christenson Arms rifle but you and a few others have commented about the quality. While I believe theyve succeeded in creating a stock that accommodates many different shooting positions and feels above average in all, it doesnt necessary excel in any of them. If you were to build a rifle what action would you use. Obscenely lightweight. Not a Sako to be seen ? I own a 6.5-.300 Wby and reload my own ammo. Hi But 300 WinMag doesnt fit in an AR15 and 6.5 Swede doesnt fit in a short action. Im really interested in them but can hardly find a proper review of them. Thanks for the videos, they have been great! I would like something under 6# for $2000 or less with a carbon wrapped barrel. Ive owned a Lupo chambered in 30-06 for several months now. Its a push feed which means if you short stroke the bolt you can get a jam that I guarantee will take you half an hour to un-jam. Highly recommended. Mostly hand carried, thick timber and hills in foul weather. I havent tried the Rage yet, but I have used that same action and stock in different configurations. The stock is not very rigid, the butt pad is too stiff, and the stock geometry is only acceptable. The stock and barrel is nothing special unless someone could chime in as to why it is different than all the others plastic stocks? Will be used mostly for white tail and hogs in Texas. Great choice in a gun. Nothing problematic, but clearly noticeable. Is it ever gonna happen or should I just buy a 6.5 prc? Most of the great rifles youve taken time to make us salivate for do not make left handed models. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. My initial impression is that it is a pretty standard budget bolt gun. You mention that you felt the Browning X-Bolt Pro was not a good fit for a heavy recoil gun. I am looking for an all purpose dependable rifle to handle more than one role. I am going to buy one last hunting rifle eventually in 7mm or 7 PRC so I am watching CVA XT and Weatherby. Or is the lighter, cheaper, better looking cva more applicable? a few few hundred cycles smoothed it right up. I have monkey arms so a new stock is in the future for whatever rifle I choose another reason Im trying to keep the price down. I am a huge fan of their 1911s and know they are big into precision rifles. The need for fast follow up shots, I know with practice a bolt action is fast, but I also dont want to break my right hand grip on the gun and trigger. The plasticky stock is Pure junk. Tikka T3X or Franchi Momentum Elite - ALDEER.COM Aldeer.com Copyright 2001-2022 Aldeer LLP. It can be tough to watch all the individual reviews of rifles that I do on Youtube and get a sense for where each rifle stacks up on the Jim Scale, so in this post, Ill give it to you straight. The more you talk the clearer it becomes that youve never held much less used a gun. So with 6.5CM its sure to take the deers soul. Your email address will not be published. Overall, I think the best three rifles under $1,000 are the Tikka T3X Lite, the Bergara B-14 Ridge, and the Weatherby Vanguard. COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. Good luck wearing one out with your old ass, you could have the best or worst and it wouldnt matter since its seeing all of a day of use once a season. The Weatherby Vanguard threaded, Bergara B14, and Howa Carbon Stalker are all models Im researching more to try to come to a definitive decision. In our testing, we had all of the guns chambered alike, but as soon as any of the reviewers shot the Tikka after shooting the other rifles, they all commented that the recoil felt heavier. I wish more gun writers would be as informative. It is very expensive. Thank you! I\ve hunted since high school age but always small game/birds. It may not display this or other websites correctly. x bolt is about 150 or more expensive. What do you think about the CZ 557 line and the new 600s? The stock is among the best I have ever used, its reasonably lightweight, excellent on accuracy, and the manufacturing quality is reliable. Well yeah man its a larger case. I just purchased a Rival this week. CVA all the way. Keep up the good work. It looks like a real great gun. then Keep up the good work! Since recording the review of the Sig Cross, my copy of the gun did develop the issue with the safety where it doesnt quite go to the correct position. Thanks. Hey Jim! . Now they are North of $400. I just cant keep myself from grabbing the Sig Cross. I can not find on your website. You havent included Winchester in your reviews. I\m a big fan of your videos and expertise. Required fields are marked *. I might add when I got back to the car even with all that grease and oil on my gun I still sprayed it down with WD40 and again when I got it home and dried everything off. Keep the vids coming, I look forward to seeing them. Agreed on the MarkV. Im surprised it didnt make the list. I load for better, but what would you choose? Hornady Precision hunter was working well in mine. Yes its more than that modern piece of shit for $300 but I have found other used Mauser sporters including commercially made ones in the $300 dollar range not once but many , many times. Although, I think Vlad is optimistic on price, but you can find a deal. Great to see honest reviews that are very entertaining hope to see many more. I hear a lot of people liking the Seekins Havak, but it just hasnt grabbed me. Ill update the post. Fastest/flattest 6.5 using 143 gun ELD-X bullets. The Bergara Mountain 2.0, Kimber Mountain Ascent, Bergara Premier, Browning X-Bolt Pro, Seekins Havac, Weatherby Mark V, Fierce Edge, Christensen Ridgeline, and others are all rifles Im familiar with. Was very happy with all of it. Fantastic. Accuracy * * * * * Sorry its been so long since I have followed up on this, but didnt want to post on this rifle till I had some time with it and straightened out a problem Ive been having with my scope. Im giving the Momentum an extra star above average for the polished, fluted bolt and all the checkered ergonomic areas on the stock that fancy it up a bit. I recently purchased the Momentum Elite in the 6.5 creedmoor and respectfully think an honourable mention for the under $1000 would be appropriate. In your opinion, is the Fierce worth the extra you pay or does the Springfield give you more value for the money you spend. superbly accurate with federal non-typical 150s (second load i tried). JavaScript is disabled. Gear up as your favorite Delsin Rowe Vest. I do like the Weatherby rifles as well as Tikkas. Do you have a suggestion for a backcountry hunting rifle that does well with heavy recoil? I really enjoy watching all of your youtube reviews. I agree with you 100 percent it is a home run for Springfield!!! To my surprise John Mogle responded and told me to send in my gun and they would replace the barrel and fix the problem. The action quality, as well as the barrel, produces a very accurate rifle. Also, I think the X-Bolt Pro just isnt bringing enough to the table for doubling the price over a regular X-Bolt. The Sig Cross is the rifle that I have consistently used more than any other hunting rifle in my gun vault. If you want to hunt larger game like elk, then Id recommend getting the same rifle in .30-06 Springfield. I knew an unknown secret that they did not know, its called grease and oil. Powered by UBB.threads PHP Forum Software 7.6.1.1 (Release build 20180111) Page Time: 0.097s Queries: 14 (0.037s) Memory: 3.1032 MB (Peak: 3.2586 MB) Zlib disabled. have since restocked it with a B&C M40, and will use it for long range targets and steel. I would love those see a review of the Benelli Lupo.Ive been shooting mine for little while now and I have to say it is a very accurate hunting rifle with a great ability to conform to just about anybody.Hope to see a review in the near future.Da Butcher. They are reviewing new rifles not old ones. You mention it just once in this string but dont come back to it at all. Glad that rifle is a shooter. It doesnt snag or grab clothes but somehow its still plenty soft and grippy.